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does that mean that all the LR Defenders i see on a daily basis have plastic bull bars?
Yes. If they were fitted from new. Plenty of 2nd hand availability for them I guess assuming the owners aren't worried about little technicalities like insurance :roll:
Don't know what date this was effective from though. 2006 rings a bell
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does that mean that all the LR Defenders i see on a daily basis have plastic bull bars?
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..Morty.. you telling me there is a point being Chartered Mech Eng :wink: .. Associate at the moment but as it means nothing in the UK I have not finished the job!.. meanwhile in Spain they at least understand a Chartered Engineering does not change tyres for a living! :lol:
Well at least I get asked if I can fix peoples washing machines.............the answers no I can barely fix my own :D :D
Anyway back to the question:
Personal taste I guess but I really dislike them. From an aesthetic and practical point of view (in the UK).
Kid killers :evil:
So I say bin them.
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I believe it was actually the insurance companies in UK by way of action by injuried party action group pressure that banned bullbars/
So if anyone has a bullbar in the UK then they are probably uninsured unless they have explicity told their insurance company in writing.. and it is on the policy as a modification. Otherwise expect insurance company to walk away from any claim..
.. now if it was factory fitment.. well maybe.. but I would still be mentioning it.. I mean Alloys can be factory "optioned" but the insurance company will not cover you if they are not standard on your model.
Now there is EU pedestrian impact laws/tests... so only plastic bullbars are legal on new cars.
..Morty.. you telling me there is a point being Chartered Mech Eng :wink: .. Associate at the moment but as it means nothing in the UK I have not finished the job!.. meanwhile in Spain they at least understand a Chartered Engineering does not change tyres for a living! :lol:
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In Spain it is not possible to import/register a vehicle with a bullbar anymore.
But tracking is very simple because, for it to be legal, it needs to be recorded in the equivalent to the V5, together with side steps, winch, snorkel, tyre size, engine size and power and even the amount of silencer boxes and decibels the engine emits at full load. And all these things are checked with every MOT.
Any modification done to the car needs to be accompanied by an approving report from a chartered mechanical engineer :roll:
So please stop complaining about the UK. While I lived there I once saw a powered sofa with numberplates driving down the high street :shock:
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must admit the chrome strips do look good. you have them on yours don't you?
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I think that the laws have changed in the uk regarding front bars. If your vehicle has one (now) it is legal, but fitting a new one is no longer possible. I don't know where such information is recorded for each vehicle.
Insurance companies charge more for a bar don't they? I'm waiting for the time when insurance companies refuse to pay out if the vehicle has a bar...
Personally, I don't like them in the UK.
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Agreed. But given that I only use my G nowadays offroad and in extremely unpopulated areas, it did not occur to me. I think that this is the best advice that one can give.
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There have been a few people with them who have had accidents that think they were worse off for having the bar as it spreads the impact over a wider area rather than just focusing it.
As for whether it should stay or go, I think that on a SWB with all the lights on it as it has it looks far too heavy. If you want to keep it looking a bit bling then I would remove it and put chrome strips on.
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I'd say, if you're in a country where you're likely to need it as frontal protection when you accidentally ram an idiot driver; keep it.
If on the other hand, you're in a country with fairly good driving, and heavy pedestrian traffic, and are more likely to hit a pedestrian (and damage him/her) then perhaps it is better to remove it.
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Apart from what it's already been said, I think it's a matter of personal taste, so I wonder why you need to ask????? :?:
I love the looks of the G with the original brush guard but as I said that's my personal opinion. What is clear is that if you need to remove it you'd be able to sell it for a good price, giving the extant demand.
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Always looks good! Also, great for 'clearing' the road, should you be in a 'hurry'. :oops: 8)
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im aware of the holes and filling, that would be part of the job i guess.
same wheels. sticking with them.
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If you remove the brush guard you will need to fill the holes in the bumper. Also if you remove it then I would remove the light guards (again holes to fill) as they look silly without the brush guard to balance it.
Did you get new wheels?
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OK, took a shunt in the back of the G by a Sky TV van so am getting some work done to the rear end (nothing major, he came off worse and is paying for it). I'm going to take the opportunity to get the wing mirrors and bumpers colour coded and am debating whether to keep or remove the brush guard - I just can't make up my mind. Thought I'd get some opinions from the pros............
Votes - keep/remove
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