Falklands Argentine W461 G's
Quick visit today to the "Aero Venture" museum in Doncaster, home of the South Yorkshire Aircraft Museum and the Yorkshire Helicopter Preservation Group.
http://www.aeroventure.org.uk/
http://www.helicopter-preservation-yhpg.org.uk/
Based on what is left of the old RAF Doncaster site and utilising the last remaining Bellman Hanger and some WW2 buildings.
Copied these G pictures from the permenant "Falklands" exhibition
http://www.aeroventure.org.uk/mainfalklandsexhibition.php
Good little exhibition
Sorry for the poor quality....
Super W461 Open Military Scrapyard
W461 G after the attention of the RAF
W461 been winched to the crusher....
Putting on my anorak,
arn't these 460's?
Most 240GD's? Though I beleive some some were Carb Petrol 2000?
Look fairly knackered!
Any truth in that rumour , due to the fact General Galterie never paid up for these G's if you entered Chassis number into MB system it woudn't recognize vehicle?
Or is this just someone trying to knock values down?
Bovington Tank Museum ( Dorset), ment to have one in good order.
An A star for your essay on the Falkland G's Gav
Didn't most fail due to camshaft failure due to zero maintance, though would be hard to imagine how they clocked up many miles there?
No idea it was around 1000, even at 1979 prices a lot!
Someone reading this must have /had one , what happens when the chassis number put into MB system as a private owner? Sure a skilled parts operator like yourself can get around this but majority would just say computer says no!?
Doesn't look that bad, the one with the brothers in, only needs a wing....bet it a shell now a very rusty one.
Hi
The M115's were prone to Cam issues and this was made worse by the cold temperatures and the nature of the use and poor maintainance, don't think MB Germany would pay the Warranty Claims?!? And there was a lack of parts supply chain after the initail kits were used up.
If you put the chassis numbers in EPC it is just as normal at dealer level and there would be no issues.
However if you are nogetiating a Military Supply Contract then alarm bells would have rung, i understand that they still run quite a few in everyday service in Argentina?
Wonder when MBAG wrote the debt off, i guess they may have a CCJ against them....
I think if that one has been strafed by a Sea Harrier it may need more than a wing....lol
Gav
I was down in the Falklands in the late 80's and remember a couple of swb ragtops being used by the locals as their daily drivers...possible they are still being used today...not a huge road network down there...
Steve
We had a Guy at work, ex RM, who told me they took some Argy G's to Norway to use as company hacks getting parts from the Norwegians.
Also my Dive Buddy who was in the Falklands War, again RM, told me one of the RM commanders "imported" a G following the war and got in to a spot of bother for it.
There was one in the Cobham collection in North Devon and the Fleet Air Arm Museum has one which may have come from the Cobham Collection when it closed.
Paul
Here is a pic of the Fleet Air Arm one
Just think how well that G would go with a 606, must be much lighter in that configueration
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TBH they could be either but most were 461's...
They took over a thousand 461 series 230G Carb models in 24 volt, circa 800 in SWB Open and 200 in LWB Open configeration and also circa 3 dozen 460 series 230G Carb models in 12 volt, split between SWB Wagon and LWB Wagon and Van.
Only around 300 of the 460 series 240GD models in SWB Open and SWB and LWB Wagon all 12 volt.
Also there are a handfull of 460 series 300GD in 12 volt SWB and LWB Wagons and a couple of 460 series 280GE's a SWB and LWB Wagon.
They look fit for scrap TBH although i understand the British Army did use a few and canabilised the rest for spares to keep them going, several ending up in private hands. I think there are a few around the country.
As far as i know MB Germany would not supply anybody any spares for them as they had not been paid for, so they were all bar useless to the Army although in private hands it would not be an issue?
Interstingly after the 1979-1981 vehicles taken by the Argentine Army there is a "block" of around 4500 chassis numbers that dont seem to exist on the MB systems, so maybe your right.....
Seen the Bovington one, not in too bad nick for its age and what it's been through...
I understand that the one in the picture that the 2 brothers are looking at in 1982/83 is still there in the bog although most of the detachable parts have been stripped by either solvenier hunters or locals needing parts, i think the engine, gearbox and axles have gone and it rolled on its side, that was in 2011 i think.
Gav